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Lynne Ramsay takes her "dark ideas" to America for this one. There appears to be strong influences of Michael Haneke (Benny's Video), Gus Van Sant (Elephant) and (before he became a total hack) Martin McDonagh (Six Shooter).
Watched this years ago and noticed that my comment disappeared. No matter, still recall vividly the performance of Tilda Swinton who played the tortured mother, Eva, anguished of her first-born malevolent son. A thought provoking nature vs. nurture topic in today's horrific school violence concerns.
I know that this film is going to stay with me. The intensity of the troubling storyline is matched only with the performance of Tilda Swinton as the mother. Without giving away any of the details, the filmmaking of the flashbacks and snippets of scenes from past to present play a crucial role in the telling of this story. I also found the theme of splattered red from the throwing of the tomatoes scene to other paint scenes reflective of the blood spilled and chaos that this movie ensues. As the mother tries to scrape away the dried red paint on her car/home, so is she trying to remove all the bad memories caused by her son, Kevin. Raw.
tried to get through the first 40 minutes - no go! Not enough to keep me investing my time, especially since the topic was not sympathetic to me. I would say "Don't waste a reserve on this" but they are no longer limited!
Conflicted - whether to really, really like this or be put off totally. It's not the subject matter (how many times have we come across "evil" young people acting out their hates) but in this film I cannot rationalize mother's ignoring her son's complete hatred for her over 16 years nor can I understand dad's complete obliviousness to the two-faced kid he's got. Don't mum and dad ever talk? Is he blind; is she impotent? Doesn't make sense to me. Better they had tried to cure their son and failed; now that would've been more realistic to me. Reading Ezra Miller's bio (he was Kevin as a teenager) is a bit scary too - he certainly was the right person for the part.
This movie is not entertainment!
Not worth watching unless you are interested in watching a case study on a troubled child and the sad effects.
A very dark film about a mother's relationship with her disturbing son and the aftermath after he does the unthinkable. This film is excellently crafted, but the subject matter, based on the book of the same name, is so chilling and despicable that the faint of heart may have to turn away. There are no happy moments to be had here. WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT KEVIN is essentially about how blame is placed and how society handles catastrophe by finding a scapegoat, whether or not they are at fault. It makes you cringe to watch a clearly unwell little boy grow up with no reprimand for his unruly and cruel behavior, and any punishment he does receive never sticks. Despite his mother perpetually trying to alert others (her husband, doctors, etc.) to the problem, nobody else seems to see it until it's too far gone. And at that point, who do you blame and why? How can you blame someone who has done everything in their power to prevent something from happening and has suffered nothing but obstacles from everyone she has confided in? It's hard to even fathom and so simple to see how innate evil is tolerated and sugarcoated until it explodes and causes damage in other people's lives. This film is an interesting character study, both of a powerless mother and a tad too powerful son, but it made me feel horrible inside, to see the rotten run freely. I've watched it once and I'm certain I'll never see it again, because it's too frightening a thought, but I would still recommend WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT KEVIN to anyone who has a good heart but can handle observing such a high degree of depravity.
Well, this was an okay movie. The only thing that I would say is that this is a woman who should NEVER have had a second child, given the problems she was having with the first one! I guess after trying to deal with the situation as this mother did (realistically) and not getting any support (or having people even believe me), I would have packed my bags and told my husband to enjoy his son and left.
The first 10 minutes or so are very, very confusing. But once you get past that you start to get into the rhythm of the movie and the plot starts to make sense. I really enjoyed this, a great film. It's not for everyone however, and I have to say John C. Riley felt very out of place. For me he's a pure comedy actor, and whenever I see him in a movie, regardless of what he's doing, he cracks me up.
I say give it a watch, but don't give up if the first bit confuses you.
If you get by the first 10 minutes of the movie, you might find yourself liking it. There are some movie's out there that depend on the Actor carrying the movie, that if it weren't for her performance, it might not have been as interesting. This is one of those movies.
Like a contemporary take on "The Omen", only without the convenient supernatural explanation, Lynne Ramsay’s gut-wrenching look at the evolution of a sociopath pushes an already tense family drama into the realm of urban horror. With a keen sense of style, Ramsay alternates scenes of harsh reality with almost surreal interludes as she weaves back and forth through time...a raucous tomato festival Eva is covering in Spain morphs into a crimson bacchanal, a street full of little Halloween revelers becomes a pagan nightmare (while a jarringly incongruent recording of Buddy Holly’s “Everyday” plays in the background), and throughout the film blood red metaphors abound as Eva repeatedly tries to wash her hands clean. Horrific storyline aside, there is also a jet black satire at work here as we see a generation of boomers trying to contend with the spoiled brats they’ve engendered; while Eva looks on with helpless bewilderment, her husband Franklin is completely oblivious to the narcissistic monster in the living room. Ramsay even manages to make a wry comment or two on society’s television-obsessed preoccupation with the macabre and mob vigilantism. A brilliant and unsettling piece of cinema which had me shaking my head long after the final credits. And in the role of Eva, the legendary Tilda Swinton is pure gold.
No.... we need to talk about finding a decent movie, because this isn't it. I watched the whole loooooooonnnggggg thing...thinking it would give me some kind of payoff... but my loss is your gain... i pass this knowledge onto you dear friends....SKIP THIS MOVIE
While Kevin is a weirdo, the only person who seems to be not fooled and can see the real him is his mother, to everyone else he knows how to play them - just like any sociopath can do. They are not dumb people, and are usually very bright - too bright, that is can be scary.
Having read the book and knowing how the book is laid out, the movie is really confusingly laid out. There is a lot of flip flopping around, flash backs are not in any order - while in the book they are more so. Yes, some families do raise killers...just watch the news. Aside from what the movie is about - kid killing kids (hello hungry games is kids killing kids too as a game, anyway!) if you haven't read the book this movie is kind of lame, hard to watch, hard to understand, and doesn't have the same effect as the book does. While some lines are directly said just like the book, other parts were added in (like the Christmas party jerk) we already got that this mother is now living in day to day hell - it wasn't needed. Read the book - if you can get through that, then watch the movie.
Very well done, creative. But frustrating: it seems to me that it is simply the story of a family whose son is a psychopath without understanding it, so without bringing him to the specialists who would have avoided his crime.
I normally wouldn't give the time of day to an item that I so disliked as this one, but in the interest of saving humanity from wasting its precious time on a pretentious and self-referential piece of garbage like this, I feel compelled to make a statement. This film does not in any way treat the subject of evil, heinous juvenile crimes, or nature vs. nurture in a socially responsible manner. It's philosophically confounded, morally repugnant, technologically haphazard (and no, it's not artistic, just frustrating), and way, way too long. The combination of narcissistic director and neutorically mannered actress would be alienating enough, but the message of the film--that this is a woman who deserves our sympathy and respect--is too much. Avoid at all costs.
We Need to Talk about Kevin examines a mother and son relationship and explores nature versus nurture as it pertains to evil. Kevin is clearly a disturbed child but his mother's inability to show love does not help matters. Unfortunately neither Kevin's mother nor his father are disciplinarians which begs the question whether Kevin could have turned out differently. In the end even Kevin does not totally understand why he killed his father, sister and seven classmates. The story is told mainly through flashbacks and takes place over eighteen years.
The subject matter is disturbing. A mentally ill adolescent goes berserk and kills his family and school classmates. This movie normalizes this kind of horiffic act. You will not feel good after watching it.
great book...fantastic portrayal of effects on a family due to the son's mass shooting....damn shame about the movie. I found the movies disappointing and felt if one hadn't read the book you could easily wonder what was happening.
Very dark, chilling unusual movie. The story unfolds through flashbacks. I found it a little confusing at first, but after the first thirty minutes it started to flow. Thought provoking, somewhat disturbing movie.
I think this is an excellent film. It is not for the faint of heart, however. The subject matter is disturbing but its presentation is excellent, which makes this a powerful and emotionally devastating piece. It is not a feel-good movie, but it is thought-provoking and worth the 100 or so minutes it takes to watch. Out of a possible five stars, I give it the maximum. Lynne Ramsay did a fantastic job directing this outstanding picture, and I look forward to seeing more of her work.
Many people appear disappointed that the movie didn't *entertain* them. It didn't entertain me either, but it certainly made me think, and it affected me. It was hard to watch the movie unfold. It was so well done that I soon gave up any thoughts that this might become a standard Hollywood horror film e.g. The Omen
Others found the jumping back and forth frustrating. I found it very effective and the movie was much better following this approach than taking a purely chronological one. People looking for an *easy* movie to watch - this isn't it.
Kudos to Tilda Swinton and all 3 actors who portrayed Kevin.
Interesting book. Bad movie.
I was curious as to how a movie could be made from this novel.
Answer: very 'arty' self conscious shots. Really, really bad.
A Choose Your Own Adventure movie. Is it about a once happy woman overwhelmed by her bad seed child, or is everything all mummy's fault, as usual? You decide! Judging by "making of" featurette, even the cast and crew, divided by age and gender, can't agree. Be warned that this is not a "realistic" depiction of a troubled family, but a highly stylized memory, filtered through the mother's guilty conscience. Tilda Swinton, that strangely sexless actress, is a wonder as a human Edward Gorey cartoon.